Windows 10 Discussion

Discussion in 'Software Discussion' started by DinJerr, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. DinJerr

    DinJerr Meow Meow Meow Award Winner!

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    windows10preview.png Early impressions:
    • Clean installation was quite fast.
    • Windows sync from cloud worked at retrieving all login and individual settings stuff from my Windows 8.1 account.
    • Glorious return of Start menu, with that Live Tiles hybrid thingy (best of both worlds, ain't it?)
    • Search box which kinda works like OSX's more recent Spotlight web-inclusive search.
    • Task View which works like a poor man's version of OSX's Expose/Mission Control.
    • Modern Apps run in windows and are resizable.
    • Explorer's Home shows favourite, recently accessed folders and documents. Explorer's interface is very clean (perhaps too clean?).
    • OneDrive sync from cloud worked, kinda gives Dropbox a run for its money now.
    • The frickin window borders are 1 pixel wide. HUZZAH!
    • Was gonna say Windows Store didn't work, but it connected now. So downloading all my Modern Apps.
    • IE11 is not as shitty. So stop it with the IE is slow jokes.
    • Overall, it feels very snappy. I really like it.
    What's not working:
    • Yiynova driver didn't work. :(
    • Tried to install 3dsMax 2015, but the installer failed because it couldn't connect to the Internet. Will try again later, because the Windows Store also failed earlier on. Worked.
    What to take note of:
    • There are already reports that Microsoft IS LOGGING EVERYTHING YOU DO in the Technical Preview. So don't be stupid like accessing sensitive materials such as banking, buying stuff from Amazon or browinsing for MLP porn.
    • Gonna try Steam and some smaller games later.
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  3. Strike105X

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    Except for the window border being smaller i can't say i'm impressed.... I guess there's no way to disable the start button right ?
  4. KrossX

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    I read it was disabled by default and you gotta enable it.

    @DinJerr, How's the start menu performance? Can you have it show up with no tiles at all?
  5. Lasnap

    Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage

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    @KrossX it's the other way around. Start menu is enabled by default and you can switch to metro if you want.
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  6. Silenus

    Silenus Pilgrim Junior Contributor

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    Do you have to clean install?

    Only have one partition on my laptop and don't want to back up.

    Have they said something about how will the final release be?
    Wouldn't like to use this, then have to format again for the final build.
  7. DinJerr

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    @KrossX Demmit, I have to remove all my live tiles, just to experiment this for you. :p
    windows10preview_normalstart.png
    There, the slim Start menu. Happy?

    @Silenus Is that your work laptop? Then don't. This ain't called a preview for nothing.
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  8. Strike105X

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    I don't want metro, in fact burn it with fire, i just don't want the start button either, then again if there are no hotspots i'll just use a startkiller app.
  9. RedLion

    RedLion Better be better than yesterday

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    Ok. Now I want to try Cortana. Where the f**k is it ?
  10. KrossX

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    @DinJerr: Thanks! You're the best! :D
  11. Silenus

    Silenus Pilgrim Junior Contributor

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    Thanks DinJerr.

    Looks like the icons still need some work.
    Using stock old icons and new icons. They don't mix well.

    I love to try new things but I'll wait because yeah this is my work laptop, although my docs are in the cloud, I can't risk it.

    Will wait for a more mature build.
  12. Samor

    Samor Foundry

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    well, there's still some "design conflicts", metro apps don't look like normal windows/desktop apps obviously and indeed there's no consistency in icon usage.

    Still, the old and the new are much better integrated with each other now.
  13. Hard core Rikki

    Hard core Rikki Super Moderator Staff Member Award Winner!

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    There's a couple new, unused icons snuck into the preview. IMO, they will most likely be switched in for a last minute interface refresh like the shi tzu they pulled with Metro (leaking only screenshots of the desktop then shocking the world with fullscreen tiles).
  14. @ruantec

    @ruantec Crazy GFX coder Emu Author

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    This is good shit.... Microsoft is finally back on track with Windows 10.



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  15. makotech222

    makotech222 The one and only

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    As a software dev, I'm excited for Win10. Hopefully we can get everyone on xp/7 on board to upgrade for free. No more designing websites for IE8 or using <.net 4.0.
  16. Strike105X

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    The "Xbox on Windows 10" thingy is misleading its basically streaming, i guess its cool for someone who actually has an Xbox one but for those of us who don't have it its nothing to be excited about....
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  17. @ruantec

    @ruantec Crazy GFX coder Emu Author

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    Yeah, i remember writing tone of extra code in intranet applications just to keep compatibilty.... that was a real mess. However, companies don't like to upgrade that fast because of money and also compatibility with certain apps or hardware.

    That feature is exclusively designed for Xbox One owners and not for the general users. It wouldn't make much sense if that weren't the case unless MS wants to kill there own product. However, the XB1 as it seems is going to turn into a sort of "steam machine" instead of a console since is going to have Windows 10 installed as well. That's the reason they said that windows store apps and games from the store are going to run on it and even office(he stated that office on the XB1 makes little sense tho.). The idea however is to connect all devices from there eco-system while having the exact same OS which is great.

    That feature is making a big buzz in the internet right now and lots of PS4 users are pissed since the PS4 has remote play which is a great feature. The difference here however is that most people actually own a PC or windows device rather than a Vita or specific Xperia devices which makes it a killer feature. Also from tests it seems like that feature is going to work a lot better as well but only time will tell.

    Now the part missed in there event is the fact that after the XB1 has Windows 10 installed and supporting DX12 it could *theoretically" run PC games as there is nothing stopping it except for high specs requirement on newest games. The DX12 example shows a lot since games running DX11 will hit there limit easily after adding more complex stuff and with it requiring higher specs. With DX12 that doesn't seem to be the case as it effectively use CPU and GPU allowing far more on the exact same specs but that's something to be seen.
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  18. Hard core Rikki

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    It's targetted at Steamboxes. The Windows-based ecosystem will be far richer if SteamOS keeps depending on streaming from a Windows machine.
  19. @ruantec

    @ruantec Crazy GFX coder Emu Author

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    Hmmm this is actually quite interesting and weird at the same time.

    Wondering now what exactly they have in mind... streaming is OK but basically it could run some PC games as there is absolutely nothing stopping them from doing so except for high requirements on some games.

    Source:
    http://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-really-looking-at-offering-pc-to-xbox-on/1100-6424796/
  20. aceloop

    aceloop Say what one more time..

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    I really want to try the Spartan web browser....

    i really hope MS steps they game up.
  21. Hard core Rikki

    Hard core Rikki Super Moderator Staff Member Award Winner!

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    Streaming TO Xbone would be actually troublesome, as PCs lack native realtime recording (not just permanent like Shadowplay/NVenc, even time-limited to when the Xbox app requests PC streams). The most convenient options to leverage for that may be Steam's streaming system, followed by Nvidia and ATI's, but I dont see it happening anytime soon.

    Going the other way around is troublefree thanks to the uniformity of Xbone SKUs, all compatibility variations are handled by the Xbox app.

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